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you

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one of the first things I'd like to say

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is that I'm not a Bigfoot guy at least I

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wasn't when it's all started just a

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language guy language teacher who had

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spent a career in the Navy transcribing

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the human voice on tape which I think

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set me up for what was about to happen

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in February of 2008 I was I think it was

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Presidents Day or something where my son

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Steven had done had the day off but I

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taught at a military college so we

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didn't have the day off so I often had

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my kids coming hang out with me in a

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classroom and it's one particular

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morning Steven we were just sitting

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between classes and we were sitting

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there on my laptop at the time Goldin

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Lee stuff and he had a project for

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school that I didn't know about it's

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time he told me says dad but he says I

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want to write a paper about you know of

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course he's 12 years old at the time 3

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thinks either the Loch Ness monster

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aliens or Bigfoot and he says so I said

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well let's see what we found on Google

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ass on Google and Bigfoot stuff and he

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says dad um what do you think Bigfoot's

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sound like any only thing I remembered

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some b-grade movie from the 70s and I

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let out a howl whoa he said come on that

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that's not what Bigfoot's sounds like so

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I said well let's cool it so I literally

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googled Bigfoot sounds immediately took

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me to the Bigfoot field researchers

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organization the BFRO and to one of

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their little prompts there it is said

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Bigfoot sounds and I went down and said

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samurai chatter as well this sounds

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interesting on the language guy

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right and so it's chatter that implies

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language so I said but you know I'm

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still in my like paradigm my old

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paradigm thinks you know now what is

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this goofy stuff so I played it and I

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couldn't believe what I was hearing

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and I became silent sort of my son was

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actually worried about me and I but I

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went back I played it again and I went

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back and I played it again and it was

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only a morpheme stream of maybe five

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seconds but in a five seconds my whole

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paradigm changed Steven do you remembers

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it all those differently than I do but

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because my whole paradigm change did

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that long and I think my version is

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probably closer to the real version he

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says dad what's wrong he said 42 put

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some matter what he's doing I played it

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again I said listen is stealing ice

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there's language in here it's just come

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on dad come on it sounds like he said it

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sounds like Apes fighting to me is how

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can you hear language you know because

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it did it to to the average ear it would

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sound like which you will hear here in a

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moment

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right and I said Steven we have to slow

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this down like dad used to do in the

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Navy and say okay so that's what really

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set me off on a kind of a quest to get a

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hold of the original tapes because in

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that moment I came to realize three

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things one that it was not human I'd

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spent my whole life at that time

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listening to the human voice on tape and

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I could tell immediately that it was not

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a human the second thing was it was

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speaking a language and I could hear it

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even though my son could not probably

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because I had been conditioned my whole

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life to hear things that other people

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can't hear on tape and the third thing

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that I immediately realized is what is

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that it was not fake I had you know in

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my career I had been trained in all of

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the the best deceptive practices in

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communications and I knew that just from

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my professional experience that this was

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not fake I didn't know at the time that

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a study had already been done by dr.

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Carlin of the University of Wyoming a

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specialist in sound now again I'm not a

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specialist in sound on just a language

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guy but I could tell this was not it

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could not have been faked so in any way

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in 19 1978 dr. Carlin had already gone

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through these tapes and had proven that

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that it was there was no deception it

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was not faked so I walked away that day

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with those three conclusions that wasn't

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human yet it was speaking a language

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every bit as complex as our own human

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after a little bit of detective work I

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was able to find Ron Morehead and later

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you know Roma heard introduced me to

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Allen berry who would recorded the first

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set of tapes and which prompted a trip

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to California to him was very anxious to

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do to get a hold of these tapes I wanted

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the originals just the way we work with

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her in a Navy

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anyway three days later before I was

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even starting to prepare my trip to

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California the original tapes arrived in

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a mail and um now I don't mean

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reel-to-reel tapes of course they were

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you know the CDs and I delayed my trip

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going to California for four months

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while I transcribed those tapes

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according to what we would call military

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standards of transcription so they don't

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why I made the trip out to California

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and I met drove up to Ron's house and Al

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Barry was there al Barry was already in

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poor health but we walked in and I

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walked in and sat down to have a

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beverage we started talking and he said

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I said well the one thing I don't

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understand Ron is how could it be 35

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years and no one else detected this on

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these tapes he says well he says oh I

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said did you did you ever think did you

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ever think that you had language on

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these tapes he said an outspoken Scott

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we knew it from the beginning

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we've tried to tell people for 35 years

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there says something else going on here

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- other than big gorillas and running

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around you know in a forest and Ron says

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he says Scott we've been looking for a

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guy like you for 35 years

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which of course no made me feel pretty

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good but um and that's what started it

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and it continues what I want to do and

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what usually really makes the biggest

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impact is to just let you hear that hear

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it yourselves so what I what I intend to

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do is I'll run it at full

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full speed what we call real-time in

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transcription for a little ways and then

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we'll pick some spots after after a

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couple minutes of hearing this you will

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be able to hear the language you will be

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able to tell me yes there's language

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there even without slowing it down

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because it's it what it amounts to is

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adjusting your hearing to to something

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you've never heard before and then after

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we do that I'll come back and we'll pick

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specific spots and I'll show you what we

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do in transcription to recover the

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articulated phonemes and then you'll

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really hear it okay so um and then right

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there at the end you'll hear what we

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believe is the big male get really angry

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and an aggressive and those we don't

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think are have much of language in them

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it just sounds like he's wants to scare

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the heck out of these hunters so play

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that and I will tell the truth if I had

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heard these that big male go off like

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that up there at the mountain up there

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to see our camp which Ron and I have

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made now as of last summer nine

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expeditions which by the way seemed

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probable it seems that those are

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probably over with for specific reasons

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that I'll tell you about unfortunately

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but to set this up just so that you kind

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of know what's going on these hunters

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had asked al-bari

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who at the time he was a scientist so

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he's scientific minded but he was also

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working for a local TV station as a

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reporter and these days a group of

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hunters had been going up there since

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the late 50s they had a specific camp

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which they had it was in the wilderness

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the wilderness area but they had built a

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lean-to cabin sort of illegally up there

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so that they would have a place to stage

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their hunts every year and it was early

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on that they started experiencing these

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strange events and the vocalizations

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it's different times it's good to have

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cut of them so it was because of this

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after so many years and then going back

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down and telling their friends and

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family you know and the word gets out

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all of these guys are crazy they think

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they've got some kind of a Bigfoot or

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something up there or an imam right they

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finally got tired and you know let's

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let's invite somebody to go with us

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and take their you know recording

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equipment so that's what Allan Barry did

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and at the time you know of course the

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only way you get up there is with a mule

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train and in fact that's one of the

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ten miles of switchman switchbacks

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straight up the mountain like this and

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then from there eight miles on the top

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of the ridge to get over to the Sierra

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camp so it's impossible to do it's

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impossible to carry all that stuff up

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yourself so we have to employ mule mule

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trains and to get us up there with

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enough food and stuff and camping the

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Horta

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and other cure to survive for a week or

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two and this time this first time Albury

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had taken on a big old because this was

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1972 so had to carry a big old

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reel-to-reel tape of the quarter so to

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set this up there in there in there it's

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night time it had it hit the Sun had

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gone down and they had they wanted to

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attract the creature in well the

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creature that they called biggie and as

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you'll hear them refer you'll hear the

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human voice on here referring calling

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the man hey biggie

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come and come get some dinner what they

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had done has left a big pot of stew on

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the under fire there's a stove that they

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had up there and and then they had gone

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into into their little lean-to cabin and

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just waited and then this is what

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started the what really changes things

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up here is that when they first started

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hearing these vocalizations out there

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they didn't know that they were getting

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them they were they were so excited and

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that they wanted to make sure that they

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were getting this so they they count

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they come out of the lean-to and one of

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the guys that picks up the the mic and

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he wants to get it closer to where these

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sounds are coming from now if you can

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imagine pitch-black up there on that top

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of that Ridge it is pitch black and if

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that even the tree cover doesn't run out

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the Stars to shine through so if you can

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imagine this hunter this hunter of

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course you know all of hunters you don't

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we all like to think we're big macho

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guys they weren't gonna let honor at all

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that they were said all scare but if you

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can imagine this hunter trying to walk

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up toward these sounds are coming from

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with the mic

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talking out you know hey it's just the

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right direction it was coming from yeah

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right up there right up there keep going

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so and you'll hear that here what

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happens is apparently apparently we have

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a big male we have a female and you will

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hear it a difference here

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it doesn't take a linguistics expert to

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tell hey is that a male hominid speaking

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or is that a female hominid speaking

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you'll hear it and then we have a

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juvenile or a child which by the way

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this is the first thing you'll hear it's

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the first sound that they heard that

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night so what happens to to fill you in

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on a bachelor's they go out there and

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they try to place the microphone up a

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little bit closer and the whole time

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this has happened and the male is tall I

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can say this is talking to the female

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back and forth and it almost seems like

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they're having a little bit of an

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argument right which many of us that's

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been married realized that's a normal

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human pastime right so what happens is

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they don't that they set the microphone

290
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up there and these two are right almost

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arguing over who's going to go down and

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get the dinner we will we can't do it

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while those hunters are out of their

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cabin and they don't go back immediately

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into their little cabin which I believe

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is what finally sets off the big male so

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to give you a little bit of background

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and we can look at it again as we go on

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but I'm just gonna let this play and

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you'll see right up here can you see

301
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that yeah right up here that's real time

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100% at the speed that it was taped and

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then later on we'll come down here and

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we can do 70 percent 50 percent

305
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and what I have found in studying these

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tapes is that at the porosity or

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deliverance of language is approximately

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twice as fast as that of humans now that

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doesn't mean there that doesn't mean

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they're more intelligent that there have

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a better use of language it might just

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mean that they're very excited we humans

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do that too when we're mad or excited we

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start talking about twice our speed

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right but all the two guys be the judge

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that's the juvenile and someone is

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spaced all fast forward through some of

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it but here we go

319
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oh wow one thing to listen for is that

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they have it don't have I'm just gonna

321
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mimic a couple things that I'd like you

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to pay attention to should go through is

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they have a terminal expression it's

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almost like many human languages have

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this Chinese for example has when when

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two people are engaged in discourse or

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conversational terms meaning it's my

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they seem to have a tormal expression

329
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:44,080
that's just simply so they'll say ah

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from whole bottle a hole and it seems to

331
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be like what CB radio guys you know hey

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over your turn to talk now so listen to

333
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that and then you will also hear some

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things like snarls moans things like

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that especially the snarl still they'll

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often end that conversation turn with a

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with a and then a snarl that sounds

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something like this it's not something

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and and and by the way these frequencies

340
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again have been studied is diesel way

341
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beyond the ability of humans to produce

342
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he call it my waffle film there was the

343
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do you heard that to snarl again we're

344
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going to come back and listen to this a

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little bit slower passing for what you

346
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:25,290
prefer Ludo no let me I want to stop

347
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:26,970
this here just so that you can hear it

348
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:28,050
at real time and then we'll come back

349
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and hear it maybe I'd half time half

350
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:35,430
speed but it actually sounds like the

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big male is as made a joke and then

352
00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:42,330
laughs at his own joke this is beyond

353
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anything we could imagine but just gonna

354
00:21:49,790 --> 00:21:47,460
play this part here and you tell me what

355
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you think if he's kind of chuckling to

356
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himself maybe laughing at those hairless

357
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apes that are running around that little

358
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cabin thinking they can fool us into

359
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now here are safe this is this is where

360
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,260
he's starting to build himself up now

361
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you'll start to hear the humans as

362
00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:42,260
they're trying to walk see they don't

363
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:53,059
know they're getting this stuff yet when

364
00:23:07,570 --> 00:22:54,650
its pitch black out there on a mountain

365
00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:07,580
it sounds like this now that pretty sure

366
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:21,270
the juvenile

367
00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:44,470
now here soon you'll see here soon

368
00:23:49,150 --> 00:23:47,000
you're gonna see the humans speak upward

369
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here they are right here you see it

370
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:55,820
there you can see the difference you can

371
00:24:01,330 --> 00:23:58,010
see the difference in the vocal

372
00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:01,340
footprint between the humans and the

373
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so what they've done what they've done

374
00:24:18,370 --> 00:24:14,520
is they said they picked one guy says

375
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you go stand by the the the stove

376
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by the food and you get their attention

377
00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:23,640
you make them come down to you hey come

378
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:26,550
get some dinner right and while we sneak

379
00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:28,170
up and try to trick them and put the

380
00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:29,990
microphone closer

381
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:33,720
well now years after the fact we know

382
00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:38,220
you can't trick them but so I could I

383
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:41,870
can imagine a guy who gets chosen for ya

384
00:25:04,340 --> 00:24:46,290
dinner duty come down get some dinner

385
00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:04,350
boys here's more human up which

386
00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:18,120
direction where we put this through some

387
00:25:25,220 --> 00:25:23,820
dead space here so well this is all

388
00:25:30,820 --> 00:25:25,230
going on while the humans are out there

389
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,830
at first the the SAS are are silent

390
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:33,120
observing which a seem to be very good

391
00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:37,770
at doing that might might be the best

392
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:39,270
thing they do is observe the behavior of

393
00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:51,570
humans again a human problem is they

394
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:53,160
come back and they don't immediately go

395
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:56,289
back into their own cabin

396
00:26:02,159 --> 00:25:58,480
it seems here that the big male begins

397
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:02,169
to build him so you know build himself

398
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:29,289
up and he gets into it like almost an

399
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,110
old elation where he's going just like

400
00:26:42,299 --> 00:26:40,720
you know this Matt just like a human

401
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:42,309
would do if he was trying to scare bunch

402
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:08,350
[Music]

403
00:27:16,659 --> 00:27:10,530
now here the female energy

404
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:16,669
Energex they're not there right there

405
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:39,500
male so that little interchange with

406
00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:41,010
them so almost like the female comes

407
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:43,590
else's I mean we can only imagine

408
00:27:47,419 --> 00:27:45,210
Hey well he's trying to scare them for

409
00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:47,429
it of trying to feed us you know he's

410
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:49,320
like in there of course this is all

411
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:52,640
supposition and it's fun so you know

412
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:54,690
presume what they might be talking about

413
00:28:01,640 --> 00:27:56,970
so you got to pick up milk coming out

414
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:01,650
maybe saying hey I'm the big male when I

415
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:03,390
mature this family and I'm gonna make

416
00:28:08,899 --> 00:28:07,679
the decision here you know whatever but

417
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:08,909
it almost sounds a little bit too

418
00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:10,650
familiar to us even though we don't know

419
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:19,559
what they're saying you can hear that

420
00:28:30,490 --> 00:28:26,760
as a thermal expression and then he

421
00:29:04,460 --> 00:28:36,410
he still doesn't like it let's calm down

422
00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:04,470
a little bit okay now if you'll notice

423
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:07,590
here you see this timestamp down here at

424
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:19,040
with 7 minutes and 48 seconds we have

425
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:22,740
over 90 minutes of this stuff with the -

426
00:29:27,370 --> 00:29:25,290
with the Barry tapes with both Barry

427
00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:27,380
tapes and the Morehead tapes combined

428
00:29:31,490 --> 00:29:29,430
that's why it took me four months to

429
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:31,500
transcribe it before I even made my trip

430
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:35,370
out to California now the way we

431
00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:40,110
transcribe something is um through

432
00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:43,800
techniques of and you'll see me do it

433
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:50,580
here where we take a very small segment

434
00:29:58,450 --> 00:29:54,890
of articulation and we put it on a loop

435
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,460
and um we loop it and then we begin to

436
00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:00,960
speed it up sometimes but most of the

437
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:03,030
times in this case slow it down

438
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:06,840
so that we can recover onto paper the

439
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:08,430
morpheme streams the phonemes that are

440
00:30:14,390 --> 00:30:12,000
being articulated now we were trained to

441
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:14,400
do this you know in the crypto community

442
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:21,980
and we're actually even trained to be

443
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:24,720
able to recognize other languages that

444
00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:27,240
are not our target language and there

445
00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:29,070
are times that we are required to

446
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:34,520
transcribe out in the field transcribe

447
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:36,630
languages that we don't that we've never

448
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,290
studied so that we can send it back to

449
00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:42,320
NSA in those days in SA

450
00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:47,240
right to have it analyzed but you have

451
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:49,640
to send it to the right people so you

452
00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:51,470
have to know is this a Slavic language

453
00:30:58,660 --> 00:30:55,180
is it a Asian language is it you know

454
00:31:04,450 --> 00:30:58,670
Germanic etc so these are things that

455
00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:04,460
were trained in so let's go back to the

456
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:06,500
beginning we won't listen to the whole

457
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:17,300
articulations to look at

458
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:27,500
and that this I think even at real time

459
00:31:33,970 --> 00:31:29,460
you can hear this there's very first

460
00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:33,980
thing vamo borrow haha

461
00:31:46,790 --> 00:31:38,070
and so this is what we would do we would

462
00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:46,800
isolate this little Florida just that

463
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:49,740
one little articulation net that's

464
00:31:58,700 --> 00:31:53,730
that's not even a full second maybe a

465
00:32:02,120 --> 00:31:58,710
little over some but it might take me 15

466
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:02,130
20 minutes to get it down to my

467
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:04,470
dissatisfaction and then you gotta take

468
00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:07,430
a break you get too much input in here

469
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:09,420
you know we've learned over the years

470
00:32:15,290 --> 00:32:13,710
you have to stop after 20 minutes a half

471
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:15,300
an hour you have to stop take the

472
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:19,140
headphones off and and just be silent

473
00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:22,200
for a few minutes otherwise when you if

474
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:24,660
you just kept it up you're gonna you're

475
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:27,540
gonna veer off course that's why it

476
00:32:36,410 --> 00:32:29,190
takes it that's why it took me four

477
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:36,420
months to transcribe the whole thing so

478
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:38,070
here I'm just gonna play this again at

479
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:41,220
real time and let you hear it see what

480
00:32:52,550 --> 00:32:50,760
you think I'm haul bottle hoho of course

481
00:32:57,650 --> 00:32:52,560
I can't do it as quickly as they do but

482
00:33:00,890 --> 00:32:57,660
oh haha oh here's another very good

483
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:00,900
point as to how we know that this is not

484
00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:07,050
a human is because they are tick they

485
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,300
are articulating on the pant which means

486
00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:15,120
they are actually articulating for names

487
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:21,300
on the inhale bar ooh whoo now humans

488
00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:24,210
are capable of doing this but it's all

489
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:27,150
it's we're not capable of doing it like

490
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:29,550
this because in almost every one of

491
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:30,750
these articulation

492
00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:34,230
you've got some articulation on the pant

493
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:36,750
and they've seen if they seem to do it

494
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:41,010
with such ease that's one of the reasons

495
00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:43,290
that we don't saw children besides the

496
00:33:52,610 --> 00:33:48,390
frequency differences again I'm home by

497
00:33:56,830 --> 00:33:52,620
Roja Baro ha who obviously another

498
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,930
now let's slow down 50% now some people

499
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:14,639
have asked me and I've been challenged

500
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:19,260
by professional linguist I should say

501
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:22,740
linguistics specialists which by the way

502
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:27,200
are not necessarily language specialists

503
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:29,730
linguistics is a science and it's

504
00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:31,830
studies well how does a human make an L

505
00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:34,080
sound what do we call that how do we

506
00:34:40,690 --> 00:34:36,929
make a K sound bla bla bla this is us

507
00:34:44,050 --> 00:34:40,700
this is the science of linguistics ok

508
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:44,060
languages different languages is an art

509
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:47,070
an art that we are all very adept at

510
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,450
because we've been doing it all our

511
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:51,440
lives we've got a lot of good practice

512
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,260
right so I've been challenged by people

513
00:34:59,720 --> 00:34:56,639
saying well how do you know this is not

514
00:35:01,970 --> 00:34:59,730
gibberish how do you know this isn't

515
00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:01,980
just a gorilla they're pretending to

516
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:06,350
speak a language well in a study of

517
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:10,410
psycholinguistics we know that gibberish

518
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:15,330
itself implies language because you must

519
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:18,570
first you know you must first have the

520
00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:21,420
ability to communicate a language before

521
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:26,550
you can create sounds that are

522
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:30,090
nonsensical otherwise how would we know

523
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:36,400
so this my main point is gibberish

524
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:38,990
itself implies language whether there

525
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,700
and we don't know he could be just

526
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:42,640
making some sounds that he thinks will

527
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:45,710
scare to humans or communicate he

528
00:35:53,230 --> 00:35:52,010
doesn't we don't know right but what we

529
00:35:59,470 --> 00:35:53,240
know that if they're if they're giving

530
00:36:03,069 --> 00:35:59,480
us gibberish they have language just go

531
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:03,079
to some some more of this put it back up

532
00:36:39,579 --> 00:36:21,650
time for some good ones are when we slow

533
00:36:46,450 --> 00:36:39,589
them down this is an interesting one

534
00:36:49,299 --> 00:36:46,460
here fun a funny publish now go um okay

535
00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:49,309
and again at real-time you should now

536
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:51,380
after having adjusted your ear to it a

537
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,390
little bit you should now be able to

538
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:56,000
hear the linguistic articulations in us

539
00:37:09,549 --> 00:36:58,880
at real-time and then when you slow it

540
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:09,559
down it becomes obvious real-time and

541
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:11,930
does that sound a little bit more

542
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:26,760
now it has to be

543
00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:31,570
[Music]

544
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:34,070
and we can change it up here we can move

545
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:47,119
out a little bit quicker I've actually

546
00:37:53,620 --> 00:37:50,780
had someone in my former presentation

547
00:37:54,579 --> 00:37:53,630
say I heard that and maybe I should

548
00:37:57,730 --> 00:37:54,589
touch on that too

549
00:38:01,300 --> 00:37:57,740
the concept of cognatic words and

550
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:01,310
phrases because I've had a lot of people

551
00:38:07,690 --> 00:38:02,930
come up and say hey when you played that

552
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:07,700
sound I forgot I heard him say be

553
00:38:14,410 --> 00:38:11,690
careful now prospered or or I'll never

554
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:14,420
go home of course

555
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:18,260
um the problem with that is we can't

556
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:23,839
make those assumptions and to test that

557
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:28,010
I have had the native linguists from all

558
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:30,050
over the world many who have been

559
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:32,930
calling some lang sit down with these

560
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:39,770
tapes I've had Asian guys in fact one of

561
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:40,990
my very best friends

562
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:44,180
Jerry Masuya japonais t'v Japanese

563
00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:46,040
speaker one of the first guys I played

564
00:38:50,050 --> 00:38:47,960
this to and it was the same afternoon

565
00:38:52,359 --> 00:38:50,060
that I heard this with my son Steve and

566
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:52,369
I took her upstairs to to Jerry's room I

567
00:39:00,339 --> 00:38:57,050
said listen to this and it was the the

568
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:00,349
part of the Somaly chatter and he says

569
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:03,680
oh my god what is that I don't know but

570
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:05,420
it's not a human he says no way it's not

571
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,670
a human I said what is it so much you

572
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:09,920
and I didn't put any seeds in his mind I

573
00:39:13,630 --> 00:39:11,330
just want to hear what he said

574
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:13,640
he said God it sounds like it really

575
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:16,910
sounds like a an ancient form of

576
00:39:22,510 --> 00:39:19,940
Japanese I said what can you tell her

577
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:22,520
they're saying just no there's not a

578
00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:24,320
word in there I understand but it's it's

579
00:39:28,839 --> 00:39:26,750
the deliverance that sounded Japanese I

580
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:28,849
don't know if we can all remember to

581
00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:32,960
bill samurai TV series you know from the

582
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:34,849
I don't know when I was 70s right and

583
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:37,250
they had the Japanese samurai come on

584
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:42,190
and they speak in a very low staccato

585
00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:45,520
you may remember that all right well

586
00:39:50,980 --> 00:39:48,260
these first clips I played for Jerry

587
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:50,990
sounded very much like that just in the

588
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:52,510
deliverance

589
00:40:01,120 --> 00:39:55,609
so on my point about cognate cognatic

590
00:40:02,890 --> 00:40:01,130
says I've had a Cherokee I've had

591
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:02,900
Shoshone actually when I was out west

592
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:09,020
I've had Germanic people I've had a

593
00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:13,119
Celtic guy specs public listened to it

594
00:40:22,359 --> 00:40:17,859
I've had Russians I've had Farsi

595
00:40:25,809 --> 00:40:22,369
Persians and of course a Asians and

596
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:25,819
English and everyone we ever play these

597
00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:28,490
tapes for if you play it long enough you

598
00:40:33,609 --> 00:40:31,339
listen to it long enough you're going to

599
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:33,619
uh you're gonna pick out little snippets

600
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:35,930
that you go oh my god he's speaking

601
00:40:46,270 --> 00:40:40,400
English well we simply cannot make that

602
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:46,280
assumption because I could I could speak

603
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:48,290
enough Russian for you now you'd go okay

604
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:50,630
uh well there's if you speaking part of

605
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,490
that English no it's not

606
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:54,079
they just have to be couldn't that

607
00:40:59,470 --> 00:40:58,160
McCook Natick words or phrases so that's

608
00:41:03,940 --> 00:40:59,480
one of one of the big questions I'm

609
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:03,950
always asked this man I hear some that I

610
00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:06,740
heard some Native American in there have

611
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:08,180
you ever had a Cherokee Lister

612
00:41:15,099 --> 00:41:10,910
well yes I have and every one of them

613
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:15,109
has found words in there that are

614
00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:20,810
there's actually a phenomenon I think

615
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:22,920
it's called pareidolia where the human

616
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:30,030
mind actually has a an inherent need to

617
00:41:36,110 --> 00:41:33,950
find order or some kind of some kind of

618
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:36,120
substance to what they're hearing when

619
00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:37,970
you hear something like this that is so

620
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:44,190
out of your paradigm then we humans try

621
00:42:05,420 --> 00:41:45,780
to make sense of it it's part of our

622
00:42:20,350 --> 00:42:05,430
nature let's play a little bit more for

623
00:42:27,370 --> 00:42:20,360
B Kenya have speed and so on hopefully

624
00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:31,130
the language characteristics in all of

625
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:33,990
it you don't and again you don't have to

626
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:35,970
be you know a language guy you don't

627
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:38,550
have to be a PhD in linguistics to begin

628
00:42:46,370 --> 00:42:41,340
to hear it because it's so much a

629
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:46,380
natural part of ourselves that when you

630
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:47,850
hear it and it's presented in the right

631
00:43:00,110 --> 00:42:50,460
way you begin to hear it at real time

632
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:11,390
[Music]

633
00:43:19,609 --> 00:43:17,400
this is an interesting spot here after I

634
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:19,619
just got done telling you that we can't

635
00:43:34,109 --> 00:43:26,650
presume any cognates on in here we get

636
00:43:37,289 --> 00:43:34,119
this articulation where the the sass is

637
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,299
and it's the female here is is saying

638
00:43:42,839 --> 00:43:40,960
the word I'm sorry we can't we can't use

639
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:42,849
the term word we have to use morphine

640
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:45,490
because words in any language are

641
00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:50,670
notoriously hard to define why because

642
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:55,059
every time a word is used it really

643
00:44:00,059 --> 00:43:58,030
depends on the person that that's using

644
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:00,069
the word as to what the meaning is and

645
00:44:06,569 --> 00:44:02,500
all of that and they change every

646
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:06,579
utterance the concept of word changes so

647
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:07,960
that's why I don't use the word word we

648
00:44:11,789 --> 00:44:09,010
have to use the word we have to use

649
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:11,799
linguistics expressions like more Fame

650
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:16,210
and phoneme for name is an individual

651
00:44:24,410 --> 00:44:22,390
sound like ah ba la and more fame is

652
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:24,420
when you combine more than one phoneme

653
00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:27,690
to create what we would normally call a

654
00:44:35,069 --> 00:44:31,240
syllable or a portable or maybe even a

655
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:35,079
whole word or simply we don't know and

656
00:44:41,069 --> 00:44:38,290
then we're using the word the the the

657
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:41,079
term morpheme stream where we have a

658
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:43,030
combination of morphemes where there is

659
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,250
a certainly the beginning of one

660
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:46,960
morpheme and the ending of that more

661
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:49,510
vehement and others begin and what we

662
00:45:00,410 --> 00:44:51,960
would normally maybe call a sentence or

663
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:04,319
so oh so yeah my point being here this

664
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:08,049
is so interesting because this sass the

665
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:13,049
female actually actually states utters

666
00:45:21,509 --> 00:45:18,970
the morpheme food twice in one morpheme

667
00:45:23,009 --> 00:45:21,519
stream and I'll play it back here for

668
00:45:25,410 --> 00:45:23,019
you but this is what's interesting what

669
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:25,420
this is yeah you know we hear this oh my

670
00:45:32,279 --> 00:45:29,170
god she said and you hear this too it

671
00:45:35,789 --> 00:45:32,289
actually says me that almost sounds like

672
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:35,799
she that she's saying me watch food

673
00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:41,410
plain food or plan that food which if we

674
00:45:48,749 --> 00:45:44,140
were going to really you know go out on

675
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:48,759
a limb could sound like I'm watching the

676
00:45:58,349 --> 00:45:51,880
food and there's plenty of it me watch

677
00:46:00,180 --> 00:45:58,359
food plain food now what's what's

678
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:00,190
interesting about this is because the

679
00:46:06,299 --> 00:46:04,000
humans never use the word food as you

680
00:46:09,749 --> 00:46:06,309
heard before what they're saying when no

681
00:46:12,089 --> 00:46:09,759
calling the the sass come down and then

682
00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:12,099
take the food they're using the word

683
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:12,900
dinner

684
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:16,630
as you heard they say hey Big E come

685
00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:21,730
down get some dinner right but let me

686
00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:24,220
play this it's just and again we can

687
00:46:34,289 --> 00:46:26,200
never come out definitively stay oh my

688
00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:34,299
gosh we know what they're saying there

689
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:36,460
for the strangeness again a hundred

690
00:47:03,479 --> 00:46:47,730
of course way too fast for anybody to

691
00:47:16,569 --> 00:47:14,069
giggle with me watchword plan food now

692
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:16,579
you know something else I could say

693
00:47:21,009 --> 00:47:18,890
about cognatic expressions a lot of a

694
00:47:24,999 --> 00:47:21,019
lot of people say that they hear them

695
00:47:26,979 --> 00:47:25,009
speaking Spanish some say well the

696
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,989
sounded like English only it sounds like

697
00:47:36,009 --> 00:47:28,880
elven English or whatever that's

698
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:36,019
supposed to mean but if we take a look

699
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:40,910
at it these creatures as we've come to

700
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:44,720
believe one of their most important

701
00:47:53,259 --> 00:47:48,049
skills seems to be observation of human

702
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:53,269
beings we think that's why they're so

703
00:48:02,049 --> 00:47:57,130
hard to find I mean if your entire

704
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:02,059
survival depending on knowing where the

705
00:48:10,299 --> 00:48:05,650
humans were and what they're doing then

706
00:48:13,210 --> 00:48:10,309
you would over how many thousands of

707
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:13,220
years of evolution would you not be

708
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:15,849
developing that that skill of

709
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:27,940
certainly we would begin learning some

710
00:48:39,819 --> 00:48:35,569
of the words that the humans use on this

711
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,829
on this continent Spanish has been you

712
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:42,160
know right away took over

713
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,130
you know the dominance of language 500

714
00:48:52,089 --> 00:48:49,599
years ago so if that's the case

715
00:48:55,749 --> 00:48:52,099
Sasquatch could have been listening to

716
00:48:58,930 --> 00:48:55,759
the Spanish language it doesn't take

717
00:49:02,079 --> 00:48:58,940
that long to learn a language right

718
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:02,089
English has been a dominant language in

719
00:49:10,259 --> 00:49:07,249
North America for 400 years so again

720
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:10,269
it's just it just adds entry interesting

721
00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:11,850
complexities

722
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:19,470
to what we're looking at and what is it

723
00:49:34,070 --> 00:49:21,930
that we're looking out here I would tell

724
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,080
you Ron's routine and continuing request

725
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:36,240
of me is to Scott I just want to know

726
00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:38,670
what they're saying you got to tell me

727
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,990
what they're saying we want to know what

728
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:41,400
they were saying to us after that night

729
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:43,140
because we know they were trying to

730
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,500
communicate with us and I've had to tell

731
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:48,300
on their there's no ways that we can

732
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:50,910
know the only way that you can verify

733
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:55,710
actual the syntactical meaning is to sit

734
00:50:00,320 --> 00:49:58,800
down with the speaker especially when

735
00:50:03,370 --> 00:50:00,330
we're doing what's called well we would

736
00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:03,380
what we are now we have to call radical

737
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:13,230
translation in order to begin from

738
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,810
nowhere you know we would have to sit

739
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:18,000
down have tea with a sasquatch say okay

740
00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:21,210
when you said bar oh ho ho did you mean

741
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,350
a tree or did you mean POTUS - what did

742
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,880
you mean and we have to confirm that

743
00:50:32,090 --> 00:50:29,280
with a speaker in order terms when we

744
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:32,100
have a language that is not related to

745
00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:38,090
any known human language now the first

746
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:40,320
the first person who actually brought

747
00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:46,470
this up back in the early 60s was a the

748
00:50:57,130 --> 00:50:50,900
eminent late philosopher and linguist

749
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,140
dr. Willard Quine we've had to consult

750
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:00,720
his many works in order to try to

751
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:03,510
understand where is our starting point

752
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:11,490
where do we go and um he stated in one

753
00:51:17,090 --> 00:51:16,050
of his works that um what if postulated

754
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:17,100
this

755
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:21,330
what if human beings were to discover a

756
00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:23,640
language that is not related to any

757
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:27,720
other language and the other human link

758
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:33,210
and he gave us sort of a guideline he

759
00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:35,400
says um and he actually gave us the word

760
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:36,990
for it he's the one that first came up

761
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:39,450
we would have to call this radical

762
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:43,470
translation because we cannot depend on

763
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:47,970
other than goose TKE lineages to try to

764
00:52:00,440 --> 00:51:57,440
he said the first step one he said the

765
00:52:03,550 --> 00:52:00,450
first thing we would have to do is find

766
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:03,560
out how what the word that they used for

767
00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:13,500
yes and no and strangely okay you know

768
00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:15,780
we linguist we the linguist we use

769
00:52:21,590 --> 00:52:18,420
a lot of tools one of them is frequency

770
00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:21,600
counts so we would go through this whole

771
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:24,180
thing and create a frequency count of

772
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:28,800
every single phoneme and how many times

773
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:31,890
is that phoneme used I don't know if

774
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:33,810
you're any of you have ever done crypto

775
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:35,580
quotes those little books you can buy

776
00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:37,110
and they're like a crossword puzzle in

777
00:52:42,830 --> 00:52:40,140
crypto courts right you use frequency

778
00:52:48,550 --> 00:52:42,840
counts for instance the most common

779
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:48,560
letter in any human language is e or a

780
00:52:58,970 --> 00:52:52,830
certain language in English right now if

781
00:53:03,560 --> 00:52:58,980
you watch what what is it what it's been

782
00:53:08,570 --> 00:53:03,570
a well what yeah so that they they go

783
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:08,580
are STL E and so forth right so this is

784
00:53:13,220 --> 00:53:10,050
one of the things we've had to use for

785
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:13,230
hair and we do the same thing with more

786
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:16,740
things so what we have discovered what

787
00:53:25,050 --> 00:53:20,390
we have found in our frequency counts is

788
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:25,060
these creatures

789
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:30,800
um actually say the morpheme and no more

790
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:35,330
than they say any other morpheme what we

791
00:53:38,500 --> 00:53:36,530
would call a word more than any other

792
00:53:45,630 --> 00:53:38,510
word they use they actually use the word

793
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:45,640
no no no not that in all of its

794
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:54,680
different ways so we think we might have

795
00:53:59,470 --> 00:53:58,130
a start here only because and this might

796
00:54:02,320 --> 00:53:59,480
be an unfortunate thing to say about

797
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:02,330
human beings we know that in all human

798
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:07,760
languages the most frequently used word

799
00:54:17,140 --> 00:54:14,510
in any language is the word know it's

800
00:54:21,870 --> 00:54:17,150
been speculated to me out what is too

801
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:30,400
so that's we've sort of begun we feel to

802
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:31,780
understand a little bit about this

803
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:35,750
what's going on but the concept of being

804
00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:41,260
able to translate it is way far off so

805
00:54:48,810 --> 00:54:44,390
again I'm often asked what what are they

806
00:54:53,380 --> 00:54:48,820
saying you know I have to say it's um

807
00:54:56,290 --> 00:54:53,390
it's not possible to know yet it's

808
00:55:01,240 --> 00:54:56,300
possible to guess as long as we call it

809
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:01,250
a guess it's possible to suppose as long

810
00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:04,250
as we call it that but we simply do not

811
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:08,990
know and still Ron asked me Scott still

812
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:10,550
we hope on that mountain Scott you've

813
00:55:14,770 --> 00:55:11,690
got to come up with something

814
00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:14,780
tell me what to say and as to to have

815
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:17,150
for 10 11 years now if it's giving the

816
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:22,730
same answer it's too radical we're not

817
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:24,070
there yet

818
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,570
now with if the government hasn't won

819
00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:28,160
and a lot of people believe the

820
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:29,420
government has a couple of these guys

821
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:33,110
you know in cages somewhere

822
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:35,490
I'd love it if they came and got me says

823
00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:38,310
hey why don't you try to kur talk with I

824
00:55:49,850 --> 00:55:41,070
would love that but how likely is that

825
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:49,860
to happen why we're doing our time but

826
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:53,370
I'd like to open her up for for any

827
00:56:00,590 --> 00:55:58,290
questions we might have and i I've I've

828
00:56:04,180 --> 00:56:00,600
told odd nan that that it's probably

829
00:56:10,510 --> 00:56:04,190
best for me not to get into the weird

830
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:12,650
and I would just give you a little bit

831
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:15,890
of background on that because me and Ron

832
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:18,920
about five years ago there was too many

833
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:23,330
too many weird things happening to us

834
00:56:30,830 --> 00:56:29,190
and to others that and really for the

835
00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:30,840
first five years that we went out and

836
00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:33,480
did these conferences and I presented

837
00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:38,100
our study we actually had a path we saw

838
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:39,480
to each other hey we're not gonna go

839
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:41,970
into the paranormal here we have too

840
00:56:46,550 --> 00:56:44,010
much to talk about with just the fact

841
00:56:53,170 --> 00:56:46,560
that these things exist and they're

842
00:56:56,030 --> 00:56:53,180
sentient beings I will come back to that

843
00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:56,040
but anywho Ron and I made this pact we

844
00:56:59,810 --> 00:56:57,870
can't talk about the paranormal stuff

845
00:57:02,720 --> 00:56:59,820
and there's too much weirdness here

846
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:02,730
already so that's how we went through

847
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:04,950
our first five years of this and for the

848
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,500
last five years we finally said agreed

849
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:12,240
with each other's it wrong we can't

850
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:15,450
ignore this stuff anymore there's just

851
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:20,880
too much going on that that it's not

852
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:25,520
explainable by a gigantic hairy wild man

853
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,410
that's never been scientifically

854
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:31,280
documented running through a forest

855
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:35,130
somehow it's more than that and down you

856
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:36,900
know I didn't want to take up too much

857
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:38,820
of my time now maybe during the panel

858
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:40,930
discussion later on this afternoon

859
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:44,230
I can I can start to talk a little bit

860
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:51,030
that's good I'd like to I always like to

861
00:57:55,590 --> 00:57:52,890
see you know I'm a teacher right I

862
00:57:58,530 --> 00:57:55,600
always like to see the faces of my

863
00:58:06,210 --> 00:57:58,540
audience to make sure I'm keeping them

864
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:06,220
awake right my question is just from

865
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:11,500
some of the sounds I thought I thought

866
00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:13,330
were similar to that something I've ever

867
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:15,640
heard have you compared any of that to

868
00:58:24,050 --> 00:58:21,690
like Mongolian or eskimo throat singing

869
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:24,060
eskimo throat singing I have not

870
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:28,270
actually we have seven Mongolian

871
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:31,420
students at Missouri military academy

872
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:34,210
where I where I now teach and I have had

873
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:37,480
I have them in fact I I demonstrate this

874
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:42,280
in my philosophy class because it's it's

875
00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:46,240
a paradigm changing right and so I've

876
00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:48,280
had Mongolian students listen to it and

877
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:50,500
and yeah they do they'll they'll say oh

878
00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:53,410
my gosh that sounds Mongolian and like I

879
00:59:09,060 --> 00:58:56,200
say whoever I play a four that says the

880
00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:09,070
same thing and by the way I'm I'm not

881
00:59:15,180 --> 00:59:11,550
fat offended by any challenging question

882
00:59:18,210 --> 00:59:15,190
in fact I encourage them because that

883
00:59:22,290 --> 00:59:18,220
only skepticism and challenge only

884
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:22,300
furthers the study tells us clues as

885
00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:26,530
soon as to where we need to go I'd like

886
00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:28,350
to ask you to speculate a little bit

887
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:32,320
some of the similarities all the people

888
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:34,480
hearing their own language when they

889
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:39,760
listen to this and the finding no in it

890
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:43,210
often would you speculate that maybe

891
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:47,770
there was once a common language between

892
00:59:51,749 --> 00:59:51,220
us and the SAS or you mean worldwide on

893
01:00:02,129 --> 00:59:51,759
the

894
01:00:03,870 --> 01:00:02,139
it seems well you know I'm not an

895
01:00:06,479 --> 01:00:03,880
anthropologist or a scientist you know

896
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:06,489
it's scientist in that way but we do

897
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:09,599
know what now we know that all human

898
01:00:17,129 --> 01:00:13,839
human species at least came out of

899
01:00:21,209 --> 01:00:17,139
Africa and you know travel to the

900
01:00:22,499 --> 01:00:21,219
difference places all over the world you

901
01:00:29,099 --> 01:00:22,509
know before the time that we actually

902
01:00:30,839 --> 01:00:29,109
had racial differences so you know we

903
01:00:32,759 --> 01:00:30,849
would probably assume that those first

904
01:00:34,919 --> 01:00:32,769
tribes that came out of Africa had a

905
01:00:40,289 --> 01:00:34,929
common language but then you know

906
01:00:42,509 --> 01:00:40,299
isolation causes a wide diversity very

907
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,519
quickly in language and culture and

908
01:00:47,219 --> 01:00:44,559
everything else so we have to assume

909
01:00:49,469 --> 01:00:47,229
that the ones that went into Asia you

910
01:00:52,439 --> 01:00:49,479
know very early on not only their

911
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:52,449
physical characteristics began to change

912
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,130
but surely their language would have

913
01:01:02,009 --> 01:00:56,319
changed very quickly that's a good

914
01:01:05,009 --> 01:01:02,019
question oh and by the way hey I can add

915
01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:05,019
this to that for instance there are

916
01:01:13,889 --> 01:01:09,909
words in and most of them having to do

917
01:01:15,169 --> 01:01:13,899
with members of the family that there

918
01:01:20,939 --> 01:01:15,179
are so close

919
01:01:28,429 --> 01:01:20,949
for instance brought to brother where we

920
01:01:29,609 --> 01:01:28,439
say brother but I doubt in Persian

921
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:29,619
vajradhara

922
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:32,169
it's just to me it's almost just a

923
01:01:39,689 --> 01:01:34,689
different accent from you know how long

924
01:01:44,819 --> 01:01:39,699
have how long have the Persians you know

925
01:01:46,649 --> 01:01:44,829
been isolated from the Europeans the

926
01:01:50,849 --> 01:01:46,659
Scandinavian people who use the same

927
01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:50,859
word but brother brought so we

928
01:01:56,429 --> 01:01:53,380
understood we have to think they had a

929
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,439
commonality somewhere yeah the

930
01:02:07,180 --> 01:01:57,920
interesting to hear

931
01:02:09,069 --> 01:02:07,190
original language oh boy one more

932
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:09,079
comment on that would be the Tower of

933
01:02:14,109 --> 01:02:11,930
Babel oh you know that separated our

934
01:02:16,569 --> 01:02:14,119
languages possibly you know if you're a

935
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:16,579
Bible scholar and believe them for God

936
01:02:23,230 --> 01:02:19,220
then we know for sure there was a common

937
01:02:27,250 --> 01:02:23,240
language at one time um I'm excited to

938
01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:27,260
hear you because actually my question is

939
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:28,670
I heard questions

940
01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:33,740
I absolutely heard inflection yes yes

941
01:02:39,069 --> 01:02:36,920
query inflection is part of n in what's

942
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:39,079
interesting is the response sounds

943
01:02:45,490 --> 01:02:41,690
exactly like our response to a question

944
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:45,500
yeah and even this is another kind of

945
01:02:48,970 --> 01:02:47,540
funny interesting thing about when it

946
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:48,980
went a male and the female going back

947
01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:51,910
together they're stepping on each other

948
01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:55,670
in their utterances as if as if the man

949
01:03:01,690 --> 01:02:58,970
or the female is answering the question

950
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:01,700
that is being asked before it is

951
01:03:05,530 --> 01:03:02,690
completed

952
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:05,540
so she jumps in yeah yeah it's like it's

953
01:03:12,579 --> 01:03:10,400
nice and by the way and there's another

954
01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:12,589
reason that we know that these could not

955
01:03:17,049 --> 01:03:15,230
be faked - and dr. Carlin is the first

956
01:03:20,140 --> 01:03:17,059
one to point that out is that when the

957
01:03:23,470 --> 01:03:20,150
humans are talking they're being stepped

958
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,480
on by the creatures it's another reason

959
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:26,240
we have lists of reasons why we've made

960
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,880
these conclusions right now I didn't

961
01:03:33,390 --> 01:03:30,559
that first more that first morning I

962
01:03:37,210 --> 01:03:33,400
didn't have all that right I simply do

963
01:03:38,859 --> 01:03:37,220
but it's all been corroborated since one

964
01:03:40,539 --> 01:03:38,869
of those is the fact that the two

965
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:40,549
creatures are stepping on each other and

966
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:42,890
are also stepping on the utterances of

967
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:46,880
the humans back and forth and that can't

968
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:49,430
be faked even now even nowadays I can't

969
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:52,160
be faked and no even heard you mentioned

970
01:03:58,890 --> 01:03:55,490
other tapes other recordings and my

971
01:04:02,530 --> 01:03:58,900
question is did you ever hear anything

972
01:04:09,590 --> 01:04:02,540
this is so clear conversational what I

973
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:09,600
heard and was a more of a sad

974
01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:15,920
and sad sound and it was long and I

975
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:18,390
wouldn't call it a howl and I wouldn't

976
01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:22,170
call it a bit more moaning like what

977
01:04:28,610 --> 01:04:26,580
yeah I've we are we do our best to stay

978
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:28,620
away from howls and loans because

979
01:04:33,350 --> 01:04:30,570
they're not linguistic in nature that

980
01:04:36,590 --> 01:04:33,360
they might have some kind of meaning of

981
01:04:38,090 --> 01:04:36,600
course right but we don't that's beyond

982
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:38,100
what there's plenty of guys out there

983
01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:39,900
studying the moans and the howls that we

984
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:42,180
and we've got our hands full with plenty

985
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:47,550
as it is so yeah now I have that was I

986
01:04:52,490 --> 01:04:49,920
that you know one of the functions of

987
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:52,500
language is the expression of emotion

988
01:04:59,180 --> 01:04:55,680
and as you heard here or what I think

989
01:05:01,610 --> 01:04:59,190
the guys make up might be making fun of

990
01:05:04,580 --> 01:05:01,620
those little skinny hairless hunters

991
01:05:05,260 --> 01:05:04,590
right and then kind of chuckling to

992
01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:05,270
himself

993
01:05:16,010 --> 01:05:13,430
that's emotion there I'm sorry could be

994
01:05:20,690 --> 01:05:16,020
have to know what they were saying but

995
01:05:27,140 --> 01:05:20,700
um there was one spot on the second

996
01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:27,150
berry tape where there were some jet

997
01:05:32,060 --> 01:05:30,180
airplanes which they do that it happens

998
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:32,070
to be a corridor where jet airplanes

999
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:34,110
military jet airplanes fly over this

1000
01:05:42,050 --> 01:05:40,050
spot where our campus and um it was the

1001
01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:42,060
deep in the night it was 2:30 3 o'clock

1002
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:44,550
at night by the time this guy it had

1003
01:05:50,060 --> 01:05:47,520
been silent for a number of minutes and

1004
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:50,070
this jet aircraft goes over very loud

1005
01:06:02,590 --> 01:05:58,770
you can hear it and a sasquatch almost

1006
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:02,600
laments see me singing on these Oh

1007
01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:08,810
oh and then yells something but that's

1008
01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:10,580
one instance where I would have to say

1009
01:06:33,820 --> 01:06:12,590
that I actually heard what I would call

1010
01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:33,830
sadness of speech where they do sound he

1011
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:37,430
kept repeating and and one of the common

1012
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:40,310
phrases as you know and you'll get

1013
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:43,310
children that are so habitual they end

1014
01:06:50,410 --> 01:06:47,210
every sink even mid cynic you know

1015
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:50,420
there's no you know it's a human yes my

1016
01:06:56,260 --> 01:06:52,990
daughter is that it's a yes absolutely

1017
01:06:58,450 --> 01:06:56,270
that's a good good point because that is

1018
01:07:02,520 --> 01:06:58,460
one of our term what we would call the

1019
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:02,530
turmoil expression you know you know we

1020
01:07:26,350 --> 01:07:19,250
now you have me doing it I know what you

1021
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:26,360
talked about no they don't know know

1022
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:28,310
that the the massacre up in the

1023
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:29,510
mountains that not although there have

1024
01:07:38,740 --> 01:07:33,050
no if they did I I would I'm very close

1025
01:07:41,170 --> 01:07:38,750
friends with the top and they I think

1026
01:07:44,350 --> 01:07:41,180
they would they would know yeah unless

1027
01:07:47,170 --> 01:07:44,360
it's a big government conspiracy to keep

1028
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,180
it from us there's always that you know

1029
01:07:59,860 --> 01:07:50,480
what else over you know question we do

1030
01:08:13,070 --> 01:08:03,530
25 minutes well do you have a question

1031
01:08:32,530 --> 01:08:13,080
sir I guess we got some time we can

1032
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:37,130
yeah yeah I'll make these pretty pretty

1033
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:39,299
quick I was just gonna ask what was the

1034
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:41,040
paranormal things you didn't want to

1035
01:08:47,150 --> 01:08:44,190
match get into I'm just kidding

1036
01:08:50,780 --> 01:08:47,160
I guess well they're too many to get

1037
01:08:54,019 --> 01:08:50,790
into right now and again I will probably

1038
01:08:56,690 --> 01:08:54,029
be able to discuss that a little bit in

1039
01:09:05,120 --> 01:08:56,700
more in depth when we do the the panel

1040
01:09:12,510 --> 01:09:09,630
okay yes yes I will tell you that one of

1041
01:09:13,970 --> 01:09:12,520
the first weird things that began

1042
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:13,980
happening up there

1043
01:09:22,530 --> 01:09:19,890
that we could not ignore anymore is we

1044
01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:22,540
of course every time me and Ron went up

1045
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:24,460
there we took recording equipment and

1046
01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:28,090
the first few years Ron took a video

1047
01:09:36,350 --> 01:09:32,340
camera okay and I took the the best

1048
01:09:41,730 --> 01:09:36,360
little voice the quarters you could buy

1049
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:41,740
and we always loaded up with tons and

1050
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:47,890
tons of batteries lithium and we would

1051
01:10:00,020 --> 01:09:56,710
get up there and whenever whenever you

1052
01:10:03,150 --> 01:10:00,030
could feel them and this is so much I

1053
01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:03,160
guess I can get into anybody that's been

1054
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:06,340
around Bigfoot and in been out in the

1055
01:10:12,810 --> 01:10:09,910
woods you can sort of tell you can you

1056
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:12,820
there's a feeling that after months and

1057
01:10:17,370 --> 01:10:15,370
months of doing it years of doing it you

1058
01:10:20,910 --> 01:10:17,380
can I would turn around says run or not

1059
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:20,920
here is it as I know now there's no

1060
01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:25,390
scientific explanation for that so when

1061
01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:28,780
we could feel them I know this sounds

1062
01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:31,000
very unscientific but at this point we

1063
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:37,770
when we could feel them and we I would

1064
01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:40,710
turn my recorder on and let it run

1065
01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:43,000
thinking that hey if they say something

1066
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:44,860
you know I might come I catch a morphing

1067
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:49,210
stream but what we found is I would turn

1068
01:10:57,300 --> 01:10:51,550
that recorder on and you could actually

1069
01:11:00,770 --> 01:10:57,310
watch the battery go within a couple of

1070
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:00,780
minutes those batteries were drained

1071
01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:04,570
completely and we would put more

1072
01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:05,990
batteries in

1073
01:11:10,370 --> 01:11:08,070
and then they were talking then there

1074
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:10,380
were times we get there for three days

1075
01:11:16,750 --> 01:11:13,310
and there's nothing going on you can and

1076
01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:16,760
ronon alternate sizes they're not here

1077
01:11:24,430 --> 01:11:20,870
they're not here are they that my little

1078
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:24,440
recorder would last would last for days

1079
01:11:30,020 --> 01:11:27,090
the batteries would not move

1080
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:30,030
I'd have full power for many days as I

1081
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:33,780
wanted and the same thing happened with

1082
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:37,410
his video camera when we could finish

1083
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:39,330
get that camera ready and this of course

1084
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:41,100
was only the first five years because

1085
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:43,170
after that we decide we're not there was

1086
01:11:50,450 --> 01:11:44,640
no use trying to take stuff up there

1087
01:11:52,940 --> 01:11:50,460
anymore cuz it never worlds we'd start

1088
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:52,950
to you know hey we film is get that

1089
01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:54,450
video cam already so you don't you go to

1090
01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:56,100
do is push it on have we got to get we

1091
01:12:02,750 --> 01:11:57,960
got to get these questions right you

1092
01:12:04,610 --> 01:12:02,760
turn it on oh this is a completely

1093
01:12:08,660 --> 01:12:04,620
different kind of battery than I used in

1094
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:08,670
my my little voice recorder so that was

1095
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:15,410
couldn't be explained by the fact that

1096
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:16,800
there's just a bit carrel out in the

1097
01:12:45,140 --> 01:12:41,010
forest creatures to catch the voice and

1098
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:45,150
so Barry and Morehead went to back to

1099
01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:48,330
the mountains over three years for these

1100
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:50,790
recordings well did it never once they

1101
01:12:55,850 --> 01:12:53,310
were able to catch a picture of the

1102
01:12:58,430 --> 01:12:55,860
creatures they know they must have been

1103
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:58,440
very close never caught a picture never

1104
01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:00,800
but you wonder why

1105
01:13:07,060 --> 01:13:04,099
not able to take a photo of these bombs

1106
01:13:08,020 --> 01:13:07,070
it must have been very close yes but it

1107
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:08,030
was always at night

1108
01:13:13,569 --> 01:13:11,570
so is pitch black yeah and now there was

1109
01:13:16,270 --> 01:13:13,579
sightings up there you know like in the

1110
01:13:18,250 --> 01:13:16,280
morning and you have one during the

1111
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,260
whole day which is go to go but you know

1112
01:13:23,970 --> 01:13:19,760
these guys are hunters they don't carry

1113
01:13:33,010 --> 01:13:27,760
my my feeling is that they are just very

1114
01:13:35,140 --> 01:13:33,020
adept at avoiding that and their solos

1115
01:13:37,569 --> 01:13:35,150
the believe that you don't even see a

1116
01:13:40,330 --> 01:13:37,579
sasquatch unless he intends for you to

1117
01:13:45,790 --> 01:13:40,340
see of course I can't state out

1118
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:45,800
definitively but you hadn't another part

1119
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,320
of your question yes since then have

1120
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:51,280
they been reproduced by other

1121
01:14:01,479 --> 01:13:54,770
expeditioners or any other any other

1122
01:14:04,030 --> 01:14:01,489
sharealike in Oregon or Washington what

1123
01:14:06,819 --> 01:14:04,040
ten years ago when I when we first began

1124
01:14:08,799 --> 01:14:06,829
this and going out to different

1125
01:14:12,220 --> 01:14:08,809
conferences and talking one of our

1126
01:14:18,189 --> 01:14:12,230
purposes was to solicit submissions from

1127
01:14:21,419 --> 01:14:18,199
anybody and in in that effort I I

1128
01:14:26,589 --> 01:14:21,429
published would have was called this the

1129
01:14:31,330 --> 01:14:26,599
Sasquatch phonetic alphabet which was

1130
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,340
meant for the layperson not linguist the

1131
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:33,199
layperson to go out and to be able to

1132
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:35,690
write down excuse me

1133
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:38,150
using my alphabet something that they

1134
01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:44,210
heard as a witness right and so right

1135
01:14:51,549 --> 01:14:47,860
away we began to receive submissions of

1136
01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:51,559
different recordings right and they fit

1137
01:14:56,830 --> 01:14:54,260
into a few different categories some of

1138
01:15:01,000 --> 01:14:56,840
them are just in fact most of them are

1139
01:15:04,180 --> 01:15:01,010
just birds or an elk grunting in the

1140
01:15:07,359 --> 01:15:04,190
woods or something like this so there's

1141
01:15:09,459 --> 01:15:07,369
no linguistic value to them most of them

1142
01:15:11,319 --> 01:15:09,469
but every single one on my vary dealer

1143
01:15:12,860 --> 01:15:11,329
do they're diligently you know write

1144
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:12,870
back roll back to us look like

1145
01:15:18,620 --> 01:15:16,230
analyzed your tape your morpheme stream

1146
01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:18,630
whatever and there's nothing than quest

1147
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:24,150
of any linguistic value to this and then

1148
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:26,010
I'll tell you that about many of them

1149
01:15:31,580 --> 01:15:27,930
another category many of them were just

1150
01:15:35,150 --> 01:15:31,590
fakes we started receiving many tapes

1151
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:35,160
that I am convinced were meant to trip

1152
01:15:43,580 --> 01:15:38,250
me up right said I'm a fake

1153
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:43,590
oh yeah prominent guy out there right

1154
01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:46,530
now doing fakes and all his son just

1155
01:15:53,150 --> 01:15:51,780
abandoned and I had to tell him because

1156
01:15:59,540 --> 01:15:53,160
he sounded me tape like Ella and he's

1157
01:16:01,880 --> 01:15:59,550
all over YouTube it's like oh oh he's

1158
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:01,890
know Isis sasquatch you just talking to

1159
01:16:07,820 --> 01:16:06,570
me so I this is where I got a little

1160
01:16:16,670 --> 01:16:07,830
sarcastic

1161
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:16,680
I said sir either you have a mentally

1162
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:20,370
Sasquatch that is not capable

1163
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:24,270
of producing language or you have a

1164
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:27,810
super intelligent Sasquatch pretending

1165
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:31,490
to be a mentally Sasquatch

1166
01:16:35,740 --> 01:16:34,650
incapable of producing language of

1167
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:35,750
course should you go

1168
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:40,080
not a man produced a big youtube thing

1169
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:41,340
about how I didn't know what I was

1170
01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:44,310
talking about so so that's a conscious

1171
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:46,710
stuff that we were getting for many

1172
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:49,770
years and did you know thank you

1173
01:17:04,740 --> 01:17:01,130
I'm sorry I have received three that

1174
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:04,750
that I would consider that that share

1175
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:07,810
morphemes from the Barry Moorhead tapes

1176
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:10,770
very limited and very poor quality

1177
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:12,910
nothing we've never received anything

1178
01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:15,489
like what you've heard this to me I

1179
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:18,580
think was a perfect storm I think it's a

1180
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:22,480
miracle that we have we have here and I

1181
01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:24,010
think it had pretty much amounted to the

1182
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:26,950
fact that these hunters had been up down

1183
01:17:33,450 --> 01:17:31,360
that mountain for decades had habituated

1184
01:17:35,220 --> 01:17:33,460
the fact that they're up there as a

1185
01:17:39,090 --> 01:17:35,230
awaited the Sasquatch to their

1186
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:39,100
presence the Sasquatch know they know no

1187
01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:42,640
matter how mean we sound the hunters are

1188
01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:44,140
not going to run off this mountain

1189
01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:47,200
those are big macho hunters right and

1190
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:49,060
besides the fact that the direction they

1191
01:17:53,610 --> 01:17:50,650
would run would be off of a cliff anyway

1192
01:17:56,670 --> 01:17:53,620
they're not going to do it so it's

1193
01:17:59,040 --> 01:17:56,680
almost like a perfect storm where

1194
01:18:02,010 --> 01:17:59,050
sasquatches were there they knew they

1195
01:18:05,010 --> 01:18:02,020
weren't sand in the sand and the hunters

1196
01:18:08,940 --> 01:18:05,020
had never taken a shot at them what they

1197
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:08,950
had begun to do and any Bigfoot people

1198
01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:12,250
out there know that Sasquatch are very

1199
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:15,670
partial to the innards of deer and other

1200
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:18,370
animals we think it's some kind of a

1201
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:22,450
delicacy to them so we do know that that

1202
01:18:26,940 --> 01:18:25,510
our hunters had begun to you know when

1203
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:26,950
you got a deer up on the top of a

1204
01:18:30,030 --> 01:18:27,310
mountain

1205
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:30,040
you're not going to carry those guts all

1206
01:18:38,370 --> 01:18:32,290
the way down a mountain right so they

1207
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:38,380
left him out there in we think that

1208
01:18:43,459 --> 01:18:42,610
maybe the Sasquatch were habituated in

1209
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:43,469
that way too

1210
01:18:51,959 --> 01:18:49,120
they knew where to go to find food so I

1211
01:18:53,820 --> 01:18:51,969
think it just it all came together at a

1212
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:53,830
certain place in time that allowed this

1213
01:19:13,779 --> 01:19:01,540
well how we doing

1214
01:19:15,799 --> 01:19:13,789
yes um would you I can and another thing

1215
01:19:28,129 --> 01:19:15,809
he's going to ask you to come to the

1216
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:28,139
microphone oh you know what I don't know

1217
01:19:36,140 --> 01:19:31,440
that I don't know in those days well he

1218
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:36,150
was a professional so I simply don't

1219
01:19:40,669 --> 01:19:38,909
know that again are you no I'm not a

1220
01:19:42,830 --> 01:19:40,679
sound specialists such as to link the

1221
01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:42,840
language guide but it's a probably good

1222
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:43,409
question

1223
01:19:52,009 --> 01:19:45,449
Ron would once sure Ron would probably

1224
01:19:55,310 --> 01:19:52,019
know let me touch on one of the things

1225
01:20:01,899 --> 01:19:55,320
of strangeness that goes on up there and

1226
01:20:04,399 --> 01:20:01,909
down this was actually detailed in a

1227
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,409
movie that was just just premiered I

1228
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:07,199
went I went out to Denver just last

1229
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:11,150
month for the premiere of Dave Bobby DS

1230
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:17,130
missing for one one the hunted and um it

1231
01:20:23,419 --> 01:20:20,010
was just he had me and Ron come up there

1232
01:20:26,930 --> 01:20:23,429
just to describe some of the and he's a

1233
01:20:30,279 --> 01:20:26,940
good friend of mine dave dave has seen

1234
01:20:32,419 --> 01:20:30,289
quicker than most some of the crossover

1235
01:20:35,719 --> 01:20:32,429
some of the crossover between the

1236
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:35,729
Sasquatch and other weirdness whatever

1237
01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:37,650
you want to call your fall so does it

1238
01:20:44,739 --> 01:20:41,820
interdimensional whatever right by the

1239
01:20:47,299 --> 01:20:44,749
way there are very many many many

1240
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:47,309
Sasquatch researchers that do believe

1241
01:21:02,189 --> 01:20:50,610
that the creatures are interdimensional

1242
01:21:11,470 --> 01:21:06,370
anyway up there there's a phenomena of

1243
01:21:13,450 --> 01:21:11,480
lights weird lights doing things that

1244
01:21:18,129 --> 01:21:13,460
lights just don't do in a place where

1245
01:21:19,390 --> 01:21:18,139
there are no human beings little orbs

1246
01:21:21,010 --> 01:21:19,400
and we're not talking about taking a

1247
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:21,020
picture and you got a dust cloud that's

1248
01:21:25,419 --> 01:21:22,880
a little piece of dust in his camera

1249
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:25,429
we're talking about orbs that are very

1250
01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:31,130
bright different sizes on the size of a

1251
01:21:35,740 --> 01:21:33,409
basketball when a baseball one time

1252
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:35,750
there was a rod which is actually

1253
01:21:45,580 --> 01:21:38,960
detailed in this movie that Ron saw and

1254
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,590
his girlfriend it's a ton still a rod

1255
01:21:51,399 --> 01:21:48,080
about this long about that big around

1256
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:51,409
and it came down and traveled through

1257
01:21:59,620 --> 01:21:54,800
the forest just beyond the camp edge of

1258
01:22:03,910 --> 01:21:59,630
the camp travel though you know and then

1259
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:03,920
just disappeared but for the entire

1260
01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:06,170
history up there routinely there would

1261
01:22:11,879 --> 01:22:09,590
be orbs that would come down out one of

1262
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:11,889
them in particular they still talk about

1263
01:22:18,729 --> 01:22:15,050
came down went through the forest near

1264
01:22:22,270 --> 01:22:18,739
the camp went down into the whoo Glade

1265
01:22:25,149 --> 01:22:22,280
there and and went up toward what's

1266
01:22:27,820 --> 01:22:25,159
called balls peak the mountain what we

1267
01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:27,830
call ball peak cuz there's no trees on

1268
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:30,520
it it's that Holly and it just goes up

1269
01:22:36,609 --> 01:22:33,130
and goes over the top but at mountain

1270
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:36,619
now that's that's hearsay for me because

1271
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:37,850
I didn't see it but I've heard enough

1272
01:22:42,729 --> 01:22:40,489
for people all right love and trust has

1273
01:22:45,070 --> 01:22:42,739
told me that story so often I believe

1274
01:22:50,750 --> 01:22:45,080
that so that's just another one of the

1275
01:22:59,960 --> 01:22:56,180
I have another thought or question I've

1276
01:23:05,510 --> 01:22:59,970
heard the suggestion that Sasquatch

1277
01:23:09,260 --> 01:23:05,520
Bigfoot whatever possibly be had like an

1278
01:23:10,970 --> 01:23:09,270
ESP skill knowing that you know let's

1279
01:23:13,310 --> 01:23:10,980
say hunters are coming into an area

1280
01:23:16,370 --> 01:23:13,320
before actually visually seeing them or

1281
01:23:21,260 --> 01:23:16,380
anticipating where not to go or where

1282
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:21,270
their stabl hidden low don't sense there

1283
01:23:29,690 --> 01:23:26,850
are dozens dozens of reports out there

1284
01:23:31,970 --> 01:23:29,700
from credible people and you know

1285
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:31,980
nowadays most reports are not called

1286
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:34,850
reports unless they've been investigated

1287
01:23:42,910 --> 01:23:38,730
you know now by the BFRO by other people

1288
01:23:46,670 --> 01:23:42,920
that that are using you know good invest

1289
01:23:49,790 --> 01:23:46,680
investigative skills to get the truth

1290
01:23:53,420 --> 01:23:49,800
out but there are dozens of reports out

1291
01:23:56,270 --> 01:23:53,430
there that talk about mind speak what

1292
01:23:58,700 --> 01:23:56,280
they're calling mine speak and a person

1293
01:24:01,010 --> 01:23:58,710
would just be out hiking a trail or

1294
01:24:04,610 --> 01:24:01,020
something like this and they get they

1295
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:04,620
get an are they actually hear a human

1296
01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:09,570
voice speaking to them in a mind so that

1297
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:12,540
that phenomena is out there as witnesses

1298
01:24:20,990 --> 01:24:17,970
claim second thought question again what

1299
01:24:24,110 --> 01:24:21,000
areas are considered real hotspots in

1300
01:24:28,729 --> 01:24:24,120
the United States just staying within

1301
01:24:30,170 --> 01:24:28,739
our own borders as far as every state in

1302
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:30,180
the Union that's what I've heard

1303
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:31,890
this is this is something a lot of

1304
01:24:36,020 --> 01:24:34,320
people can't grasp because you know

1305
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:36,030
you're in Arizona we don't have

1306
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:40,110
sasquatches well yeah you do and all you

1307
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,730
really have to do and go to the BFRO and

1308
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:47,100
look up the reason they have they have

1309
01:24:52,490 --> 01:24:50,970
almost forty thousand reports and these

1310
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:52,500
are not just these are not just guys

1311
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,239
calling in and you know writing a letter

1312
01:24:59,840 --> 01:24:55,920
and said hey I saw this it was crazy

1313
01:25:02,660 --> 01:24:59,850
blah blah blah these are reports that

1314
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,670
have been investigated before they're

1315
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:04,880
ever posted

1316
01:25:14,750 --> 01:25:11,670
and that's that site it's it's

1317
01:25:17,589 --> 01:25:14,760
impossible to dismiss 40,000

1318
01:25:19,489 --> 01:25:17,599
investigative reports you know

1319
01:25:21,799 --> 01:25:19,499
especially when you got the same thing

1320
01:25:28,029 --> 01:25:21,809
happening there any Everglades Florida

1321
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:28,039
as you got in in you know the Yukon

1322
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:45,229
oh yeah about being in every in every

1323
01:25:51,770 --> 01:25:50,489
state Missouri where I live you know for

1324
01:25:54,859 --> 01:25:51,780
over a hundred years we've had the

1325
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:54,869
reports of what they call it there and

1326
01:25:59,109 --> 01:25:56,880
it seems that each state or each

1327
01:26:02,779 --> 01:25:59,119
locality has a different name for them

1328
01:26:05,959 --> 01:26:02,789
right up there we call it Momo which

1329
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:05,969
stands for the Missouri monster and

1330
01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:13,160
there are again I've made this point

1331
01:26:19,609 --> 01:26:14,940
before there are two places in Missouri

1332
01:26:22,370 --> 01:26:19,619
called monkey mountain in two different

1333
01:26:24,589 --> 01:26:22,380
very different places in the state now

1334
01:26:27,979 --> 01:26:24,599
there's a reason why that a hundred

1335
01:26:30,589 --> 01:26:27,989
years ago some pioneer called that place

1336
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monkey mountain when that Piner had

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probably never even seen a monkey so yes

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every every state in the Union seems to

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have them there is some speculation that

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they might that the ones in Florida

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might be a little different than the

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ones up in a Northwest but the dog man

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the dog man in the Midwest compared to

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our stuff we don't know anything else

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well thank you very much for having me

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and I look forward to spending some more

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time talking about it this afternoon